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It's not a job with much glamor to it. You're by yourself a lot and sometimes you get to wondering. You wonder if anyone really cares. You look at it as, well, I've got to come over here tonight and clean up after all these students. No one really notices whether it's clean or not because tomorrow it's going to get dirty again. But you can also take the viewpoint that the students and faculty are here for a purpose. And the reason that you're here is because they're here. And so you try to do a good job because you know it helps them do theirs better. It seems as though some people think that gentry is just something that you can go out on the street and pick up a man and he can do it. But it isn't. Just everybody can't gender. Now we get men that are good men in their line but they just can't gender. Getting, I shouldn't say complicated, but it's getting to be more, a particular job now than it ever has. When you say gender you think of a man just comes in and sweeps the floor and empties the waste baskets. But there's a lot more to this janitor work than that. You have to get along with men as a prime requisite and then you have to be able to see what has to be done. The word janitor has been given a connotation which is very undesirable. If you go and ask John Doe on the street who has no connection with the field, give me a thumbnail description of a janitor. He'll give you the type that you see in the cartoons and maybe on television, depictions or in the movies or something which usually some old guy that's got his hat to the side hasn't got enough brains to come up out of the cellar and is wearing bibbo ralls and sloppy pants. I suppose in some areas this is quite true. Here we've always, I've always felt that this type of person couldn't do the work the university expects. Now there's a lot more to janitoring than a person thinks. To me it's more or less an art. I have my supplies and studio so to speak and to do a really top-notch piece of work you've got to do more than just dust and sweep. You've got to really color it clean. A clean toilet or restroom is really one of the main jobs as far as I'm concerned. I've always been touchy on keeping restrooms clean because anything that's any more aggravating to me is to walk into a restroom that is filthy and has an odor and I try to keep mine so that you don't run into any circumstances like that. That's right. Now many of the restrooms on the campus are pretty old and they require an extra bit of work to get them clean and odor free but we don't use deodorants in our bathrooms. It's not necessary really. We find that if a room is kept clean and well ventilated it's not going to have an odor problem and this is something that we all work pretty hard on and we find that it's a problem that we have solved pretty well and we're kind of proud of it. Now this jandering is not a hard job physically. It's a job that you don't get right out and walk. You're on the move continually for eight hours but you don't just get out and move right out. And you don't want yourself. Why you more or less get what I call a janitor drag. You really slow yourself down and when you're off the job I find myself a move and a lot slower than I should and I think certain type of men are person to do that. Now a lot of men wouldn't fit in as janitors. And I think that is one reason another reason why the janitors want to help each other because they have that feeling of pride and their own work and they want to help the other man because if the man upstairs does a good job and I do a good job the building looks better. So if I can help him out or if there's an extra man comes in and we don't want no complaints on the building I'll go up there and see that that he knows the job so that we can keep because we want this building to look nice. Each man is an individual and he's going to do the work his way and the goal is to get the job the work accomplished in the eight hours with the tools that are available and it doesn't matter how the man does the work. So you train each of these new men with that in mind that you show them the way you do it and the second trainer is going to show them why he does it and explain we both explain this is a way to clean a restroom a classroom an office to clean a desk and wax it. But to say this is the way you have to do it it's two different things. We really have done a lot of work on this this program and I think that we have it down now to where anyone can come in here as a new man and feel at home and and do the job if he's inclined to. If a man came comes in here and is willing and he asks questions and good questions right then you can do something with him through conversation. But if he comes in and don't ask any questions and when you try to explain something to him and he won't answer you or he's looking off at the man I just kind of figured that they're not going to make it. Well I like the job and the men are wonderful to get along with and I like to see these boys enthusiastic about their work and I just really enjoy working with these boys and they and it's surprising how much better they do than I did when I started. I guess it might have been because it's older and wasn't used to any of that sort of work but I had to step on the mop and I just miss waste baskets and it just just came hard I think for the first whole month. But with the help of these foremen and the other men you'd be surprised the cooperation you get from the men around here. Now we try to make them feel at home that's one of the first things you take a man who came and comes in off the farm for instance now he's he'd never been around he he's actually nervous he's actually scared a building this size scares him and so it's a day by day procedure the first day I like to have him just I try to acquaint him with the tools that we use and then have him watch me if I see that a man's getting nervous why then I hand him the duster and let him try the duster. There is about a thousand things to remember little things that most people don't realize and so if you take them day by day and and they take an interest you can you can get some some good out of trying to train them. If a person will really work at the job he doesn't have to worry about it but he has to be interested in it and there's a lot of a lot of satisfaction you get when when they one of the foremen come in say man that floor really looks nice where there have been scuff marks and all and you've taken them up which isn't necessary as far as the job goes but it does give you a lot of feeling the satisfaction to think that they notice and these men are trained to do that and whether you know they notice it or not a lot of times they might not say anything but you know they know the job is up. All the new men swing and that means that when a man's off sick they take his place and so you'd be surprised that these boys when they go into these buildings and now that's one of their biggest worries of these trainees is well now how am I going to find a building and how am I going to find a janitor room and how am I going to find what I've got to do. And we have an assignment sheet that's made up and it's mainly for new men when they go in the swing shift and go from building to building why they can pick this assignment sheet up which is either on the bulletin board or it's hanging in every janitor room and when they get that it tells them where they can get their tools and whatever room it has room numbers and it tells you whether or not it's a classroom or or what it might be but we also have the time element there and say that you yourself would start in here and it'd come nine o'clock and and you would wonder well where am I at am I halfway through am I a third of the way through all you have to do is refer to your assignment sheet and you know where you're at. Now we can't we don't try to follow to the minute or even do five minutes but if you're 20 minutes before or ahead or 20 minutes behind why you're going to get over your assignment. Two men who have been trained by the same man won't do the job the same they're encouraged not to really initiative is encouraged where feasible if a man goes into an area and the way he has been taught is not practical or may not be the most efficient manner he's encouraged to evolve a manner which is more efficient and more appropriate. Our assignments are so vague that it takes a manager as well as a workman to get over and that's something that one of the first things that a janitor should understand when he comes here is that he has to get over his assignment and still make it look presentable and some of them just don't have the managing ability to to do the job. Some of them work work well under supervision but when they go out on an assignment they're more or less on their honor and they haven't been they're not used to it and they fall along the wayside. It really takes some management to to make a top janitor. The performance job depends on the man as well as the man's job depend on performance so it's like the vice president and the general manager they they have to work together as far as getting the job done and they seem to do a good job. I'm wondering is something that I tell these fellows that you've got to kind of have the uh feminine touch to do good work and then you have to like to see things clean you can't uh you can't be dirty at home and then come up here and do a first class job. Cleaning restrooms is something that you can look back and see what you've done if you do it properly. Your porcelain shines and your chrome shines and a person that takes an interest can be proud of his work. As far as the job goes uh they're in the better job in the world for a man can do as much as he wants and do it his way and every man has that feeling that he knows best and if he's doing it himself he knows he knows best and they cooperate 100 percent. You have a lot of responsibility here. 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