{"language": "en", "segments": [{"text": " [...]", "start": 0.0, "stop": 4.4, "id": 0}, {"text": " It's not a job with much glamor to it. You're by yourself a lot", "start": 50.46, "stop": 56.2, "id": 1}, {"text": " and sometimes you get to wondering. You wonder if anyone", "start": 56.2, "stop": 63.02, "id": 2}, {"text": " really cares. You look at it as, well, I've got to come over here tonight and", "start": 63.02, "stop": 69.66, "id": 3}, {"text": " clean up after all these students. No one really notices whether it's clean or", "start": 69.66, "stop": 74.86, "id": 4}, {"text": " not because tomorrow it's going to get dirty again. But you can also take the", "start": 74.86, "stop": 81.8, "id": 5}, {"text": " viewpoint that the students and faculty are here for a purpose. And the reason", "start": 81.8, "stop": 87.46, "id": 6}, {"text": " that you're here is because they're here. And so you try to do a good job because", "start": 87.46, "stop": 94.18, "id": 7}, {"text": " you know it helps them do theirs better. It", "start": 94.18, "stop": 99.88, "id": 8}, {"text": " seems as though some people think that gentry is just something that you can", "start": 99.88, "stop": 106.76, "id": 9}, {"text": " go out on the street and pick up a man and he can do it. But it isn't. Just", "start": 106.76, "stop": 111.02, "id": 10}, {"text": " everybody can't gender. Now we get men that are good men", "start": 111.02, "stop": 116.62, "id": 11}, {"text": " in their line but they just can't gender.", "start": 116.62, "stop": 123.54, "id": 12}, {"text": " Getting, I shouldn't say complicated, but it's getting to be", "start": 125.08, "stop": 131.88, "id": 13}, {"text": " more, a particular job now", "start": 131.88, "stop": 136.92, "id": 14}, {"text": " than it ever has.", "start": 136.92, "stop": 139.24, "id": 15}, {"text": " When you say gender you think of a man", "start": 142.14, "stop": 149.08, "id": 16}, {"text": " just comes in and sweeps the floor and empties the waste baskets. But there's a", "start": 149.08, "stop": 152.7, "id": 17}, {"text": " lot more to this janitor work than that. You have to get along with men", "start": 152.7, "stop": 158.76, "id": 18}, {"text": " as a prime requisite and then you have to be able to see what has", "start": 158.76, "stop": 165.66, "id": 19}, {"text": " to be done. The word janitor has been given a", "start": 165.66, "stop": 172.12, "id": 20}, {"text": " connotation which is very undesirable. If you go and ask", "start": 172.12, "stop": 177.6, "id": 21}, {"text": " John Doe on the street who has no connection with the field, give me a", "start": 177.6, "stop": 184.34, "id": 22}, {"text": " thumbnail description of a janitor. He'll give you the type that you see in the", "start": 184.34, "stop": 188.74, "id": 23}, {"text": " cartoons and maybe on television, depictions or in the movies or something which", "start": 188.74, "stop": 194.2, "id": 24}, {"text": " usually some old guy that's got his hat to the side hasn't got enough brains to", "start": 194.2, "stop": 198.32, "id": 25}, {"text": " come up out of the cellar and is wearing bibbo ralls and sloppy pants. I suppose", "start": 198.32, "stop": 205.24, "id": 26}, {"text": " in some areas this is quite true. Here we've always, I've always felt that this", "start": 205.24, "stop": 211.6, "id": 27}, {"text": " type of person couldn't do the work the university expects.", "start": 211.6, "stop": 214.2, "id": 28}, {"text": " Now there's a lot more to janitoring than a person thinks. To me", "start": 234.44, "stop": 240.14, "id": 29}, {"text": " it's more or less an art.", "start": 240.14, "stop": 242.3, "id": 30}, {"text": " I have my supplies and studio so to speak", "start": 243.28, "stop": 248.64, "id": 31}, {"text": " and to do a really top-notch piece of work you've got to do", "start": 248.64, "stop": 255.38, "id": 32}, {"text": " more than just dust and sweep. You've got to really color it clean.", "start": 255.38, "stop": 261.52, "id": 33}, {"text": " A clean toilet or restroom", "start": 269.54, "stop": 272.6, "id": 34}, {"text": " is really one of the main jobs as far as I'm concerned. I've always been", "start": 276.84, "stop": 283.82, "id": 35}, {"text": " touchy on keeping restrooms clean because anything", "start": 283.82, "stop": 289.3, "id": 36}, {"text": " that's any more aggravating to me is to walk into a", "start": 289.3, "stop": 296.06, "id": 37}, {"text": " restroom that is filthy and has an odor and", "start": 296.06, "stop": 301.78, "id": 38}, {"text": " I try to keep mine so that you don't run into any circumstances", "start": 301.78, "stop": 308.42, "id": 39}, {"text": " like that. That's right. Now many of the restrooms", "start": 308.42, "stop": 315.18, "id": 40}, {"text": " on the campus are pretty old and they require an extra bit of work to get them", "start": 315.18, "stop": 320.28, "id": 41}, {"text": " clean and odor free but we don't use deodorants in our bathrooms.", "start": 320.28, "stop": 324.64, "id": 42}, {"text": " It's not necessary really. We find that if a room is kept clean and well", "start": 325.2, "stop": 331.72, "id": 43}, {"text": " ventilated it's not going to have an odor problem and this is something that we", "start": 331.72, "stop": 336.44, "id": 44}, {"text": " all work pretty hard on and we find that it's a problem that we have solved", "start": 336.44, "stop": 342.62, "id": 45}, {"text": " pretty well and we're kind of proud of it.", "start": 342.62, "stop": 345.26, "id": 46}, {"text": " Now this jandering is not a hard job physically.", "start": 355.86, "stop": 362.02, "id": 47}, {"text": " It's a job that you don't get right out and walk.", "start": 364.2, "stop": 369.36, "id": 48}, {"text": " You're on the move continually for eight hours but you don't just get out", "start": 370.84, "stop": 376.64, "id": 49}, {"text": " and move right out.", "start": 376.64, "stop": 378.6, "id": 50}, {"text": " And you don't want yourself. Why you more or less get what I call a janitor drag.", "start": 378.82, "stop": 384.9, "id": 51}, {"text": " You really slow yourself down and when you're off the job I find myself a move", "start": 386.42, "stop": 396.52, "id": 52}, {"text": " and a lot slower than I should and I think certain type of men are person to do", "start": 396.52, "stop": 410.68, "id": 53}, {"text": " that. Now a lot of men wouldn't fit in as janitors.", "start": 410.68, "stop": 415.1, "id": 54}, {"text": " And I think that is one reason another reason why the janitors", "start": 416.2, "stop": 422.82, "id": 55}, {"text": " want to help each other because they have that feeling of pride and their own", "start": 422.82, "stop": 427.68, "id": 56}, {"text": " work and they want to help the other man because if the man", "start": 427.68, "stop": 434.5, "id": 57}, {"text": " upstairs does a good job and I do a good job the building looks better.", "start": 434.5, "stop": 441.44, "id": 58}, {"text": " So if I can help him out or if there's an extra man comes in and we don't want no", "start": 442.28, "stop": 446.7, "id": 59}, {"text": " complaints on the building I'll go up there and see that that he knows the job so", "start": 446.7, "stop": 452.04, "id": 60}, {"text": " that we can keep because we want this building to look nice.", "start": 452.04, "stop": 455.24, "id": 61}, {"text": " Each man is an individual and he's going to do the work his way and the goal is", "start": 466.38, "stop": 472.58, "id": 62}, {"text": " to get the job the work accomplished in the eight hours with the tools that are", "start": 472.58, "stop": 477.9, "id": 63}, {"text": " available and it doesn't matter how the man does the work. So you train each of", "start": 477.9, "stop": 482.28, "id": 64}, {"text": " these new men with that in mind that you show them the way you do it and the", "start": 482.28, "stop": 488.98, "id": 65}, {"text": " second trainer is going to show them why he does it and explain we both explain", "start": 488.98, "stop": 493.3, "id": 66}, {"text": " this is a way to clean a restroom a classroom an office to clean a desk and", "start": 493.3, "stop": 499.5, "id": 67}, {"text": " wax it.", "start": 499.5, "stop": 501.18, "id": 68}, {"text": " But to say this is the way you have to do it it's two different things.", "start": 501.56, "stop": 507.98, "id": 69}, {"text": " We really have done a lot of work on this this program", "start": 510.82, "stop": 517.62, "id": 70}, {"text": " and I think that we have it down now to where anyone can", "start": 517.62, "stop": 524.58, "id": 71}, {"text": " come in here as a new man and feel at home and and do the job if", "start": 524.58, "stop": 531.08, "id": 72}, {"text": " he's inclined to.", "start": 531.08, "stop": 532.94, "id": 73}, {"text": " If a man came comes in here and is willing and he asks questions and good", "start": 535.4, "stop": 545.32, "id": 74}, {"text": " questions right then you can do something with him through conversation. But if", "start": 545.32, "stop": 553.78, "id": 75}, {"text": " he comes in and don't ask any questions and when you try to explain something to", "start": 553.78, "stop": 562.22, "id": 76}, {"text": " him and he won't answer you or he's looking off at the man I just kind of figured", "start": 562.22, "stop": 581.78, "id": 77}, {"text": " that they're not going to make it.", "start": 581.78, "stop": 587.1, "id": 78}, {"text": " Well I like the job and the men are wonderful", "start": 587.1, "stop": 594.02, "id": 79}, {"text": " to get along with and I like to see these boys enthusiastic about their work", "start": 594.02, "stop": 599.88, "id": 80}, {"text": " and I just really enjoy working with these boys and they", "start": 599.88, "stop": 606.72, "id": 81}, {"text": " and it's surprising how much better they do than I did when I started.", "start": 606.72, "stop": 612.82, "id": 82}, {"text": " I guess it might have been because it's older and wasn't used to any of that sort", "start": 613.74, "stop": 617.34, "id": 83}, {"text": " of work but I had to step on the mop and I just", "start": 617.34, "stop": 624.26, "id": 84}, {"text": " miss waste baskets and it just just came hard I think", "start": 624.26, "stop": 630.28, "id": 85}, {"text": " for the first whole month.", "start": 630.28, "stop": 631.96, "id": 86}, {"text": " But with the help of these foremen and the other men", "start": 632.98, "stop": 638.72, "id": 87}, {"text": " you'd be surprised the cooperation you get", "start": 638.72, "stop": 644.4, "id": 88}, {"text": " from the men around here.", "start": 644.4, "stop": 646.1, "id": 89}, {"text": " Now we try to make them feel at home that's one of the first things you take a", "start": 650.54, "stop": 655.54, "id": 90}, {"text": " man who came and comes in off the farm for instance now he's he'd never been", "start": 655.54, "stop": 660.96, "id": 91}, {"text": " around he he's actually nervous he's actually scared a building this size scares", "start": 660.96, "stop": 667.0, "id": 92}, {"text": " him and so it's a day by day procedure", "start": 667.0, "stop": 673.56, "id": 93}, {"text": " the first day I like to have him just I try to acquaint him with the", "start": 673.56, "stop": 680.34, "id": 94}, {"text": " tools that we use and then have him watch me if I see that a man's getting", "start": 680.34, "stop": 685.98, "id": 95}, {"text": " nervous why then I hand him the duster and let him try the duster.", "start": 685.98, "stop": 690.74, "id": 96}, {"text": " There is about a thousand things to remember little things that most people don't", "start": 701.48, "stop": 708.38, "id": 97}, {"text": " realize and so if you take them day by day and", "start": 708.38, "stop": 714.88, "id": 98}, {"text": " and they take an interest you can", "start": 714.88, "stop": 720.16, "id": 99}, {"text": " you can get some some good out of", "start": 720.16, "stop": 727.12, "id": 100}, {"text": " trying to train them.", "start": 727.12, "stop": 728.92, "id": 101}, {"text": " If a person will really work at the job he doesn't have to worry", "start": 731.2, "stop": 737.96, "id": 102}, {"text": " about it but he has to be interested in it and there's a", "start": 737.96, "stop": 744.88, "id": 103}, {"text": " lot of a lot of satisfaction you get when when they one of the foremen come in", "start": 744.88, "stop": 750.78, "id": 104}, {"text": " say man that floor really looks nice where there have been scuff marks and all", "start": 750.78, "stop": 755.64, "id": 105}, {"text": " and you've taken them up which isn't necessary as far as the job goes but it does", "start": 755.64, "stop": 760.28, "id": 106}, {"text": " give you a lot of feeling the satisfaction to think that they notice and these", "start": 760.28, "stop": 765.68, "id": 107}, {"text": " men are trained to do that and whether you know they notice it or not a lot of", "start": 765.68, "stop": 771.08, "id": 108}, {"text": " times they might not say anything but you know they know the job is up.", "start": 771.08, "stop": 774.34, "id": 109}, {"text": " All the new men swing and that means that when a man's off", "start": 776.7, "stop": 783.66, "id": 110}, {"text": " sick they take his place and so you'd be surprised that these boys when", "start": 783.66, "stop": 790.66, "id": 111}, {"text": " they go into these buildings and now that's one of their biggest worries of these", "start": 790.66, "stop": 796.02, "id": 112}, {"text": " trainees is well now how am I going to find a building and how am I going to find", "start": 796.02, "stop": 800.46, "id": 113}, {"text": " a janitor room and how am I going to find what I've got to do.", "start": 800.46, "stop": 805.84, "id": 114}, {"text": " And we have an assignment sheet that's made up and", "start": 806.14, "stop": 812.38, "id": 115}, {"text": " it's mainly for new men when they go in the swing shift", "start": 812.38, "stop": 819.22, "id": 116}, {"text": " and go from building to building why they can pick this assignment sheet up", "start": 819.22, "stop": 825.84, "id": 117}, {"text": " which is either on the bulletin board or it's hanging in every janitor room", "start": 825.84, "stop": 832.32, "id": 118}, {"text": " and when they get that it tells them where they can get their tools", "start": 832.32, "stop": 837.9, "id": 119}, {"text": " and whatever room it has room numbers and it tells you whether or not it's a", "start": 837.9, "stop": 844.62, "id": 120}, {"text": " classroom or or what it might be but we also have the time", "start": 844.62, "stop": 850.82, "id": 121}, {"text": " element there and say that you yourself would start in", "start": 850.82, "stop": 857.62, "id": 122}, {"text": " here and it'd come nine o'clock and and you would wonder well where am I at", "start": 857.62, "stop": 864.34, "id": 123}, {"text": " am I halfway through am I a third of the way through all you have to do is refer", "start": 864.34, "stop": 870.36, "id": 124}, {"text": " to your assignment sheet and you know where you're at.", "start": 870.36, "stop": 873.36, "id": 125}, {"text": " Now we can't we don't try to follow to the minute or even do", "start": 874.5, "stop": 881.24, "id": 126}, {"text": " five minutes but if you're 20 minutes before or ahead or 20 minutes behind", "start": 881.24, "stop": 886.14, "id": 127}, {"text": " why you're going to get over your assignment.", "start": 886.14, "stop": 887.94, "id": 128}, {"text": " Two men who have been trained by the same man won't do the job the same they're", "start": 900.68, "stop": 905.32, "id": 129}, {"text": " encouraged not to really initiative is encouraged where feasible", "start": 905.32, "stop": 911.98, "id": 130}, {"text": " if a man goes into an area and the way he has been taught is not practical or", "start": 911.98, "stop": 918.8, "id": 131}, {"text": " may not be the most efficient manner he's encouraged to evolve a manner which is", "start": 918.8, "stop": 925.34, "id": 132}, {"text": " more efficient and more appropriate.", "start": 925.34, "stop": 928.82, "id": 133}, {"text": " Our assignments are", "start": 930.3, "stop": 935.68, "id": 134}, {"text": " so vague that it takes a manager as well as a workman", "start": 935.68, "stop": 942.34, "id": 135}, {"text": " to get over and that's something that one of the first things that a", "start": 942.98, "stop": 949.76, "id": 136}, {"text": " janitor should understand when he comes here is that he has to get over his", "start": 949.76, "stop": 956.62, "id": 137}, {"text": " assignment and still make it look presentable and some of them just don't", "start": 956.62, "stop": 963.56, "id": 138}, {"text": " have the managing ability to to do the job. Some of them work", "start": 963.56, "stop": 969.46, "id": 139}, {"text": " work well under supervision but when they go out on an assignment they're more or", "start": 969.46, "stop": 975.92, "id": 140}, {"text": " less on their honor and they haven't been they're not used to it and they fall", "start": 975.92, "stop": 981.92, "id": 141}, {"text": " along the wayside. It really takes some management to", "start": 981.92, "stop": 986.26, "id": 142}, {"text": " to make a top janitor.", "start": 986.26, "stop": 989.14, "id": 143}, {"text": " The performance job depends on the man as well as the man's job depend on", "start": 1009.56, "stop": 1013.58, "id": 144}, {"text": " performance so it's like the vice president and the general manager they they", "start": 1013.58, "stop": 1020.34, "id": 145}, {"text": " have to work together as far as getting the job done and they seem to do a good", "start": 1020.34, "stop": 1026.78, "id": 146}, {"text": " job.", "start": 1026.78, "stop": 1036.24, "id": 147}, {"text": " I'm wondering is something that I tell these fellows that", "start": 1049.68, "stop": 1056.0, "id": 148}, {"text": " you've got to kind of have the uh feminine touch to do good work and then", "start": 1056.0, "stop": 1062.92, "id": 149}, {"text": " you have to like to see things clean you can't uh you can't be dirty at home", "start": 1062.92, "stop": 1069.86, "id": 150}, {"text": " and then come up here and do a first class job. Cleaning restrooms is something", "start": 1069.86, "stop": 1075.58, "id": 151}, {"text": " that you can look back and see what you've done if you do it properly. Your", "start": 1075.58, "stop": 1081.9, "id": 152}, {"text": " porcelain shines and your chrome shines and a person that takes an interest", "start": 1081.9, "stop": 1088.72, "id": 153}, {"text": " can be proud of his work.", "start": 1088.72, "stop": 1091.14, "id": 154}, {"text": " As far as the job goes uh they're in the better job in the world for", "start": 1092.32, "stop": 1097.06, "id": 155}, {"text": " a man can do as much as he wants", "start": 1097.06, "stop": 1103.9, "id": 156}, {"text": " and do it his way and every man has that feeling that he knows best", "start": 1103.9, "stop": 1110.7, "id": 157}, {"text": " and if he's doing it himself he knows he knows best and they", "start": 1110.7, "stop": 1115.42, "id": 158}, {"text": " cooperate 100 percent.", "start": 1115.42, "stop": 1117.62, "id": 159}, {"text": " You have a lot of responsibility here. You're given a job and told here", "start": 1119.7, "stop": 1125.3, "id": 160}, {"text": " this is your place.", "start": 1125.3, "stop": 1126.96, "id": 161}, {"text": " Clean it up and keep it nice and that's all they say. No one's looking over your", "start": 1128.36, "stop": 1134.78, "id": 162}, {"text": " shoulder all the time. You're your own boss and it gives you a good feeling", "start": 1134.78, "stop": 1140.88, "id": 163}, {"text": " a feeling of pride to do a good job.", "start": 1140.88, "stop": 1144.3, "id": 164}, {"text": " They depend on you and it's up to you to do the best you", "start": 1145.66, "stop": 1150.96, "id": 165}, {"text": " can. You're on your own.", "start": 1150.96, "stop": 1153.66, "id": 166}]}